tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5141070.post5308014382411165935..comments2023-12-09T00:49:20.257-05:00Comments on WWVB : What Would Vannevar Blog?: PATCO, NATCA, NextGen; Soldiers Or Artist-Craftsmen?Vannevarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08513110035186346571noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5141070.post-37305377484528557202010-11-15T10:18:53.898-05:002010-11-15T10:18:53.898-05:00Great Story, Very True as the military mentality w...Great Story, Very True as the military mentality was and is still prevalent within much of FAA management! Rudy Guiliani has always been an anti-union Republican slime-ball and nothing will ever change, no matter how he tries to twist the facts of 1981. For "messianicdruid" above, your not joining NATCA and standing strong, yet bitching over losing seniority is a sham! You saved those "Union Dues" over all those years, yet took all the "Bennies" that others paid and worked hard to get! PATCO & NATCA have shaped the ATC profession since 1968 and without them, it would be turning the clock back to 1967! I don't think many would like to go back to those times.Richard "Dick" Coxhttp://www.leaguelineup.com/potomacwarriorsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5141070.post-76373863389159335422009-08-05T15:29:12.127-04:002009-08-05T15:29:12.127-04:00i was 1 in 81 and we stood together for the cause ...i was 1 in 81 and we stood together for the cause unlike the guy above who was hired 8/23/81. who is he to talk about backstabbers !! he never joined natca , sure all he and many others like him cared about was their own ass and that he made 10 times what he made in the service. theres a brother for ya..must be nice to take his handoffs when the shit hits the fan...he couldnt get them off his frequency fast enough and put you down the pipe in the process.<br />working for Faa sucks because todays controllers as a group wont stand together over any issue. its all about me !! so there you go..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5141070.post-20322458581240168592009-08-05T11:12:25.263-04:002009-08-05T11:12:25.263-04:00I was hired Aug. 23, 1981. I also enjoyed this pos...I was hired Aug. 23, 1981. I also enjoyed this post very much, very on point. Same problems, different decade. Backstabbers should be identified.<br /><br />I never joined NATCA, maybe I was too military to see any other way to run things. Making ten times what I made as a Spec5 to get to actually control some real airplanes was just fine for me.<br /><br />I'm glad to be done with it now, but it has taken me almost two years to quit thinking about ATC. Only this passing date made me look again.<br /><br />My beef is not limited to the FAA. The Union showed it's true colors when they voted to take away over 7 years of seniority from me for teaching at the Academy. But the FAA gave the "seniority" thing away, and people like me got screwed. The members that got it could thank the "mob rule" that they supported. I've always hated democracies, both pretend and real.<br /><br />One good thing that happened after this, the "recruiter" stopped coming around with his sign-up form.messianicdruidhttp://www.gods-kingdom.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5141070.post-27390107534119088232009-08-04T11:33:37.975-04:002009-08-04T11:33:37.975-04:00I enjoyed this post and learning more about the pa...I enjoyed this post and learning more about the past of ATC. My husband is a developmental so we have years to go with the FAA and i hope things finally take a turn and people are treated betterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com